| by Kenneth Chase | 100 comments

Soaring Rents Squeeze Section 8 Tenants


I’ve been on Section 8 since 2007, and when I was homeless with my two younger sons, we were living with different relatives, we were living on the couches, we were living in our car and when Section 8 said ok, you can come get your voucher I was like okay it’s-it’s like a god-sent within a week I was able to secure the job and then after that I was able to secure a residence also. Even though I have a job it’s still hard for me to pay up the full market rent by myself. The rental housing authority provides affordable housing for folks that need it. We have public housing units available as well as the Housing Choice vouchers otherwise known as the Section 8 program. A Housing Choice voucher is a housing voucher for someone who’s low income and what it does, based on their income, it pays a portion of their rent. So we have people who are paying zero for rent and we have some people almost paying the full rent. Right now we have 1,800-1,750 people on the waitlist. We’re only pulling off about 20 per year, the waitlist may outlive some folks. It was a note on my door and I read it and I kinda got scared, very terrified. I was given 60 days to vacate. I did call the office and I asked him, “What was this about?” “there’s something I done or whatever?”, and they were like, “no, it’s just cause you’re on Section 8”, and there was no other explanations. I’ve been here in this community and I love being in this community and to sit there and have that note placed on my door. It was just devastating, I had to discuss this with my son and let him know that we would have to move again and he would have to switch schools and that was hard on him. I was up day and night, trying- I couldn’t get sleep. It almost became an addiction trying to find something available. Nothing was coming in Renton, nothing. My daughter just began to come home crying. I started thinking about homelessness. What happened in Renton with these two properties, is that we have a new ownership involved. The landlord’s were opting out of accepting Housing Choice vouchers. Folks who…receive housing assistance vouchers, in this case of Section 8 voucher. They’re competing more and more with folks who are able to pay market rates, because of all the people that are moving here for high-paying jobs. The action taken by the property management company involved was within the law, it was perfectly legal. We learn about the stories of all those folks and kind of the challenges that they had had and it also became really clear to us that a lot of those tenants were really ready to fight back. You know, I wanted to know who else was affected by this and who it would happen to and that’s how we begin to learn it, you know. We weren’t alone. When we started investigating, we came into it with understanding that Section 8 is a voluntary program, meaning landlords could – all things being equal – refuse to rent to people who’s Section 8. However, federal housing law prohibits landlords from taking actions or having policies that have, what we call a discriminatory effect, meaning a landlord could have policy that says, “we don’t take Section 8”, but if the people that are harmed by that are disproportionately minorities, women, people with disabilities, that can still be illegal. The vast majority of renters affected by this were African-American women with children, up to ninety-percent in some of the buildings, and given the population of the city of Renton and King county, that was a pretty clear discriminatory effect that this policy was disproportionately harming black women with children. I’m not sure if this was as much a race issue as it was a business decision issue. It’s a hot rental market and they want to raise rents as fast and quickly as they can, while the markets hot. They don’t understand how, you know, one minute you-you have a home and in the next minute they’re telling you have to leave, not because you don’t have enough money, not because you’re being a nuisance, not because you’re tearing up the property, it’s because you have Section 8 and that’s wrong. Next is audience comments, we have a lot-a number of people signed up to address the council, particularly on the Section 8 topic. Someone mentioned something about discrimination and you gotta prove this, you can’t prove something that you’ve experienced everyday. Everyday living. Everyday when you get discriminated against. We are asking you to stand with some of your most vulnerable community members and to pass protections for them today. This action would have effects that would spread throughout the entire region. I am a single mom. Two… Fight for us. Section 8 has been a very good thing for me. This program is needed for a lot of people. I feel it’s discriminatory, I feel that they’re discriminating against people that have low income or get help from Section 8. This ordinance needs to be passed and it needs to be passed now. Well, even though I, uh, I have the option to stay. I’m choosing to leave. I lost part of my dignity and though it was given back. We’re single mothers and we’re trying out the best we can to raise our children. InClose on KCTS 9 is made possible in part by BECU.

100 Comments

Jacklynn Jackson

Jan 1, 2019, 3:33 am Reply

Dont Wts understand that the gvt guaranteed portion of the Section8 rent ck goes to the Wt landlord. Hes garnering more than paying in taxes. Its a big circle.Staaap. 1.19

Mari Hearndon

Jan 1, 2019, 10:00 am Reply

Sell those dogs
Get a 2nd job
Everything will be okay!!

Katphena S

Jan 1, 2019, 8:23 pm Reply

Excuses

Deborah Edwards

Jan 1, 2019, 9:27 pm Reply

Section 8 should be for the old and disabled period.

Deborah Edwards

Jan 1, 2019, 9:35 pm Reply

All working able body should pay market rent I work two jobs to pay my rent not to mention a car note insurance and food ,gas, ect, and have 4 kids not one time did i get Section 8 or food stamps or medical assistant yes it hard but I made it work if I can do it so can the next person. So it no excuse.

P Funk

Jan 1, 2019, 8:15 pm Reply

She has money to get that weave done and 3 dogs plz

Linda Dannis

Jan 1, 2019, 5:01 am Reply

About time someone cracked down on these people! If they can’t make it with one job…get a second job. And keep your legs closed. Apt complex I live in just quit accepting Section 8. Lot of low class people moved out and now we have much better class of people and things are much cleaner and taken care of! And safer. So glad they finally cleaned out the trash, and made it livable for decent people again! Let the trash move back to downtown Detroit where they came from. They ruined their city and then want to leave and move to ours to do same thing.

Alana

Jan 1, 2019, 4:01 am Reply

SMH

Alana

Jan 1, 2019, 4:07 am Reply

Some of us are married with jobs. Section 8 is rental assistance for those families who have low income.

Ohmy gosh

Jan 1, 2019, 7:40 pm Reply

I don't blame the owners. I wouldn't want to stay in that either. I wanna make my money. The owners don't owe y'all anything

Pat Foret

Jan 1, 2019, 2:27 pm Reply

Where's all the baby dads? As a home owner I don't rent to anyone who cant afford the house or jobless. Section 8 renters don't take care of their own stuff nor anyone elses.

Carion Deville

Jan 1, 2019, 7:07 pm Reply

Since 2007 ? OMG KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED.

Carion Deville

Jan 1, 2019, 7:09 pm Reply

Up day and nite, how about working day and nite.

Daniella Joseph

Jan 1, 2019, 9:10 pm Reply

Apartment is outrageous in this country and pay rate stay the same specially in Florida job don't pay well.

82jake steed

Jan 1, 2019, 12:34 pm Reply

Gentrification!!!!

Michael Brown

Jan 1, 2019, 7:24 am Reply

Just go get a job

Jimmy Wadsworth

Jan 1, 2019, 1:38 pm Reply

No more singing it's the first of the month

David Alexander

Jan 1, 2019, 6:52 pm Reply

Section 8 should be for the elderly and disabled only. She looks healthy enough to work a job and 1/2 to afford a market rate apt.

Aglahad

Jan 1, 2019, 5:52 am Reply

Always playing the minority card…wow just wow

Rell

Jan 1, 2019, 2:13 am Reply

when will alot of women start making better choices in the men they choice to have kids with

Is What It Is

Jan 1, 2019, 10:52 am Reply

Divorce mom of three. Worked 2 jobs most years just to keep a roof and food. I didn't come from a very supportive family so no help there. I was taught at a very young age " You don't ask anybody for nothing". Cried many nights. Stress level thru the roof. It was hard. Sometimes life deals you a hand you never counted on. You just have to do your best.

Tom Cahill

Jan 1, 2019, 5:20 pm Reply

lol..racial issue…

April Springs

Jan 1, 2019, 6:30 pm Reply

I believe section 8 should be short term not forever, I take care of my disabled brother and we are not on section 8 it's hard taking care of him with no help, I do get food stamps and that's it, but only because rent is high and so are bills this leave us with nothing much for food.

moodyCoverhouse

Jan 1, 2019, 5:25 am Reply

You admit you have been on section 8 for 10 years! Jesus Christ woman, you can get a better job or work 2 jobs but stop taking from others because you made bad choices. Obviously your children's fathers aren't helping. Why? Because you made a bad choice getting pregnant by some pos. You pull out the race card and the single-mother card in your quest to continue living off others. Geez, get it together woman!

Reno reno

Jan 1, 2019, 2:08 am Reply

Close your legs and stop having kids

c j

Jan 1, 2019, 3:09 am Reply

How can u afford to feed ??

Dawn Lee

Jan 1, 2019, 11:33 pm Reply

How she gonna n have 3 dogs & living on Section 8???????

Hali D

Jan 1, 2019, 7:34 pm Reply

Not only Black woman, Also Latina and White and middleastern.

Girl meme wallese

Jan 1, 2019, 3:03 pm Reply

???me and my family will make it God on my side Aman .

Milla Bandz

Jan 1, 2019, 9:21 am Reply

I'm surprised nobody in the comments said " how she afford to get a tounge ring on section 8"?

Frances Blair

Jan 1, 2019, 4:03 pm Reply

she should have sold those dogs and then she would have money to get another place and get a job. And who cares what color the skin color is.

Billdude21

Jan 1, 2019, 8:19 pm Reply

How about you get rid of those dogs. Use the money for kids.

Joyce Gaskins

Jan 1, 2019, 2:53 am Reply

Rent control double rent is unfair

Mr. Duck

Jan 1, 2019, 9:26 am Reply

I have no issues with people who actually need help from the gov't… It is there , if all of you don't like it REDRESS YOUR GRIEVANCE to your ELECTED OFFICIALS to NULLIFY(10th amendment) this SUBSIDY! However this black lady is walking around with 3 dogs and no baggies, if they are hers. That's an insult to others who don't get help. Not saying she should not have nice things, but don't rub it in people's faces. Single mothers are a exponentially growing phenomenon. If you can't afford children please don't have them!

Magic World

Feb 2, 2019, 4:15 am Reply

There are more (WHITE PEOPLE) on (WELFARE) than Black's, Asian's and Hispanics combined.

TheRoShow

Feb 2, 2019, 4:34 am Reply

Fight back what? The people who chose to better themselves during the decades you "people with vaginas" paid $9.00 a month for rent? And for some of you hoes you still were getting evicted.

Evan Lanctot

Feb 2, 2019, 7:12 pm Reply

It should be for Elderly and Disabled only.

Masterr Laster

Feb 2, 2019, 4:33 am Reply

Tittle such be "Entitled Welfare QUEENS Play the race card to stay in free homes"

Silas Bishop

Feb 2, 2019, 9:22 pm Reply

Refusal to take section 8 is not discrimination. You can't afford to live there. Move somewhere else. Why should everyone else subsidize your lifestyle?

Asand dy

Feb 2, 2019, 11:52 am Reply

You can't be mad when you had more children than you could afford. Close your legs and stop burdening tax payers. I don't feel sorry one bit, I was responsible and didn't have a child till I graduated college. Be less reckless with your vaginas. Where are the fathers for these children.

CMTC

Feb 2, 2019, 3:07 pm Reply

Section8 people should not be allowed esp ones with kids to live in these hard working communities live in the ghetto where you belong.

alicat1564

Feb 2, 2019, 10:25 pm Reply

She got that weave though

Spectrum The Video Game

Feb 2, 2019, 1:28 am Reply

Landlords take all the risk. It’s no surprise that they are pulling out.

Georgia Amanatides

Feb 2, 2019, 2:03 am Reply

Landlords are in a business not a charity.
Fight back? You mean take away an owner's right to make a profit.

Georgia Amanatides

Feb 2, 2019, 2:04 am Reply

Taxes go up thus rents go up.
Geez.

Georgia Amanatides

Feb 2, 2019, 2:05 am Reply

Notice the race card is pulled.
Then the feeling card is pulled.

Randy benton

Feb 2, 2019, 3:01 am Reply

Give me that number! Oh yeah, I’m white and choose to pay my own rent instead of a weave and three dogs! It’s because these section 8 don’t take care of their place! They pop those kids out because that’s a free pay day. They are stair stepped so the benefits never run out. Man do you know how much those weaves cost?

motorman1017

Feb 2, 2019, 4:37 am Reply

so u plan to retire off of section 8

bigbean78

Feb 2, 2019, 6:09 am Reply

If it’s discrimination because property owners don’t want to accept section 8, then it’s discrimination that I was refused to even apply to live in an apartment complex because my roommate and I made too much money. I looked at a TON of places, and heard this at most of them. People who can pay their own way must stay out, so the subsidies and tax breaks can come in. I’m not sympathetic to any of these people.

Daniel Cuckler

Feb 2, 2019, 1:56 pm Reply

Wheres the father?

Zomby woof

Feb 2, 2019, 4:05 pm Reply

Dirtbag parasites

Brian The Explorer

Feb 2, 2019, 8:18 am Reply

If you can’t feed them, then don’t breed them.

J L N

Feb 2, 2019, 2:22 pm Reply

End Section 8. Find a job or find a box.

Mae Douglas

Feb 2, 2019, 7:08 am Reply

Renting in America is to High Every where even with section 8 or working a 9 two 5 Job. land Lord's are taking advantage of All of US its needs to Stop Even the middle class can not Afford to Live anywhere just like people that earns an income they can't afford 400.00 a month for Rent . they are Living in there Car and trailer if they can afford it . The Laws need to change. We are human beings with feelings and we hurt every day of our lives when we don't have no where to Live that we can afford. It's just not Fair for land Lord's to do us like that and the seniors are to old to move from place to place and the disabled are to we live in fear every day of our lives . And its not Fair for our veterans born and raised in the United States of America and they can't afford no where to Live?????? Thank you ☺

Jose Archuleta

Feb 2, 2019, 6:00 pm Reply

For all who live in section 8 the owner of house you live in can evict you and it has nothing to do with sec 8 housing the owner has the right to do whatever they want and there is nothing you can do about it with the new laws about housing foodstamps welfare you must work if you are not disabled or you will be cut off all those people who lived and used these programs all their life are in for a wakeup call out in the street homeless

Gena Waterman-Maher

Feb 2, 2019, 10:55 pm Reply

Section 8 should NOT be a lifetime benefit!! You are not allowing anyone else to get help if you never get a job and pay for your own housing! You just continuously stay in the program!!

Tublis Vaj

Feb 2, 2019, 2:57 pm Reply

People that on Government assistance should not allowed to have pets because they cannot even support themselves

Charles Peterson

Feb 2, 2019, 1:33 am Reply

Kick all welfare queens and illegals off all assistance ASAP!!!!????

Charles Peterson

Feb 2, 2019, 1:38 am Reply

Give this assistance to homeless vets and disabled first not welfare queens and illegals who think they don’t need a man or have to be here legally, what the heck ?!?!?!?????

Peter Northrup

Feb 2, 2019, 7:48 pm Reply

Im trying to figure this out. How much is the father paying in support? He is paying right? Why do you want the taxpayers to feed you? Where is the money from the father? We are done paying. Hunt him down. Make him pay. Not us. Why did you have 2 kids? Why? 2007 really?

firebird65

Feb 2, 2019, 3:48 pm Reply

Everything is discrimination. Sheesh. The best thing to do is to not take Section 8 in the first place. Looks like these two complexes learned the hard way.

Saundra Wills

Feb 2, 2019, 4:27 pm Reply

From the time u got on section 8,up grade urself. Free GOVT stuff don't last 4
Ever.ur kids should work part time.

Louis C. Gasper

Feb 2, 2019, 12:39 am Reply

She is lying when she says she was told that she was being terminated because she is in the section 8 program. It has nothing to do with her, it has to do with the section 8 program. The discrimination charge is a lie, a knowing lie. What the officials who are playing that card are doing is very simply expropriation of private property. Hey, you socialists in Renton, do you now understand why I, a landlord, will NEVER accept section 8? I don't want my property taken from me, which is what you do when you say I can't exit the program.

James Allen

Feb 2, 2019, 12:09 am Reply

So the government implements a system in which women, who have no resources, can have a child and receive money from the government, including cheap housing. Then the government says that she can receive more money if the father of the child isn't living with her and the child in the subsidized housing. Then the government says that if she has more children, she will receive more money. What could possibly go wrong?

unknown stand up Americans

Feb 2, 2019, 1:20 pm Reply

If you are working I don't have a problem with help.its called help.not permanent.i was a single mother I have received help but not long .I work two jobs didn't get any kind of assistance.i raised both my children.do what you have to do.you can't keep depending on the government and start depending on yourself.

Barbara Grady

Feb 2, 2019, 5:47 pm Reply

I've been waiting for section 8 housing since 1982 so tell me why i didn't get it oh and I'm a single mother to

Rick Believes

Feb 2, 2019, 2:09 am Reply

I worked with a lady that had 5 kids from 5 different guys, openly talked about the math calculation to figure out how much government money each child would bring her. She was a PITA to work with for everyone….and was proud about it.

dramafreak

Feb 2, 2019, 12:18 pm Reply

I will tax dollars hard at work hoping these leeches to live rent free while we pay for the rent just take care of a family.

Jappe Tah

Feb 2, 2019, 7:33 pm Reply

the victim mentality pays off to get free stuff and hand outs.
My parents always taught me to be responsible and work hard to achieve your goal .What is the goal of these section 8 moochers.Just surviving I guess by all means even when it takes away their pride .

Forget Me not

Mar 3, 2019, 2:02 pm Reply

Your society needs to start being very aware of the consequences

Twan Brown

Mar 3, 2019, 2:53 pm Reply

Just get up and go to work.

Tango Sierra

Mar 3, 2019, 3:20 am Reply

10 years later and she’s still in square ONE!?? Somethin’s wrong with this picture lol. In 10 years you can go through college and have a couple years in the field notched into your belt. In two years you can get a decent certificate. In 10 years you can move up a couple extra positions at your current workplace. In 10 years you can self-teach skills. In 10 years you can do a lot. 10% of her life and what did she do with it? Pff..

You make your bed..

Mary Baranski

Mar 3, 2019, 8:13 pm Reply

90% are African-American single mothers. The gravy train is stopping.

Cole’s World

Mar 3, 2019, 4:30 pm Reply

MAGA!

Alistair2348

Mar 3, 2019, 10:54 am Reply

Difficult to pay rent but can afford three pedigree dogs. Just think, people pay taxes so she can indulge in her hobby.

Renato Sanchez

Mar 3, 2019, 10:58 pm Reply

Work more , it’s not job to support you

Renato Sanchez

Mar 3, 2019, 11:00 pm Reply

Dam excuses of females, be independent like claim ?

barbie wert

Mar 3, 2019, 12:49 am Reply

Were is the fathers for the kids

Michele Ellis

Mar 3, 2019, 7:40 pm Reply

Keep your legs closed

Michael Bacon

Mar 3, 2019, 6:40 pm Reply

I can't even afford one dog! Many Section 8ers live in nicer apartments than I can afford.

Michael Bacon

Mar 3, 2019, 6:44 pm Reply

Baby mamas need to learn to keep their clothes on, baby daddies, keep Mr. Johnson in his dwelling. You shouldn't have kids and dogs if you are financially limited.

Reggie Givens

Mar 3, 2019, 7:08 pm Reply

She might have 3. Dogs but them 3 little mutts don't eat much

nic sharp

Apr 4, 2019, 8:54 am Reply

Welfare bums, 100 years ago they wouldn't have survived…..freeloading BUMS! HAHAHA PARTY IS OVER!

Thundergod6088

Apr 4, 2019, 12:07 pm Reply

Quess what if u can't afford a home then dont have kid's!!!

TheCameronFamily

Apr 4, 2019, 12:34 pm Reply

I know this is hard to hear – but the LORD doesnt not want people on welfare all their lives ( it is a temp resource for help) but truly he wants our reliance on him for everything. What happens when the government gets rid of Section 8. This is not discriminatory. They are going to get rid of it. Then What ? I think the white house was talking about that a few months ago. Rents are rising everywhere. We are all feeling the pinch but continued help from the government is not the answer. They can cancel all those programs at a moments notice and then what?

Giovonnitti Drachiavelli

Apr 4, 2019, 9:06 am Reply

I work and pay $1000 a month in rent i have 2 jobs i do just fine.

Giovonnitti Drachiavelli

Apr 4, 2019, 9:06 am Reply

Where is the dads?

Giovonnitti Drachiavelli

Apr 4, 2019, 9:06 am Reply

Get another job

Cajunguy82

May 5, 2019, 1:03 am Reply

Cut the program

Ms. Kendra brownbutterfly

May 5, 2019, 11:33 am Reply

Former section 8 client turned home owner..she has 3 dogs on section 8.NOT i do not feel sorry for her…

STEVE P

May 5, 2019, 4:46 am Reply

Don't have so many kids. It's not the landlords problem or fault you can't provide for your children. Where's the dad of those kids?. Stop having kids you can't afford.

Jason Brooks

May 5, 2019, 1:01 pm Reply

I wouldn’t take section 8. You end up getting stuck with negative cash flow if you do. Not to mention section 8 requirements are quite unreasonable.

country gal

May 5, 2019, 6:47 pm Reply

Can't even find a place

country gal

May 5, 2019, 6:47 pm Reply

It is a joke

michael smith

Jun 6, 2019, 4:48 am Reply

So, 1 person on section 8 for 20 years.
1 person "trying" the best she can…does she have 3 part time jobs like I did?–Her kids are old enough to not need 24/7 supervision.
What a joke.–The council just limited any landlord from ever accepting section 8 again for fear of being locked-in to a lower than market rate rent, and potentially a non-viable business.

Hate to say it, but the city needs to build and run section 8 housing…if the voucher or the tenant cannot pay market rate rent.

Twan Brown

Jun 6, 2019, 9:48 am Reply

She got money to buy her weave save or make your money to pay your rent.

Dave Thomas

Jun 6, 2019, 4:04 pm Reply

Ok. Call me I don't want those dogs to go hungry.

MrNckissfan

Jul 7, 2019, 10:58 pm Reply

So much for the strong black independent woman. A lesson for all you men out there….STOP DATING SINGLE MOTHERS! Don’t do it!

fresh B

Jul 7, 2019, 9:38 am Reply

Somewhere in this people have gotten it all wrong. Section-8 should be a hand up NOT a hand out. Get your priorities in order, stop having kids you cannot afford.. this is why the section-8 waiting list is 4-8 years long….smh

M B

Aug 8, 2019, 6:11 am Reply

Rip Renton, Wash.

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