| by Kenneth Chase | 61 comments

Peace Activist Refuses to Rent Apartment to Veteran


anyway sergeant joe morgan is suing
property owner janice roberts who reportedly is refusing to rent an
apartment to ’em because he’s a national guardsmen who has served in iraq
afghanistan and one-time obey roberts pulled sergeant morgan in april ninth
bushnell that renting to him would be a conflict because quote we are very
adamant about our beliefs according to the boston herald it is it’s just not going to be
comfortable for us without a doubt it probably would be better for you to look
for a place there is a little bit less politically active and controversial
robert told of sergeant morgan according to the lawsuit sergeant morgan said for her to do that
to me it was like a spit in the face for what we’ve gone through overseas to come
home to our country and have people discriminate against those it may be
extremely insecure about being a soldier hold more than what i had to file a
lawsuit in suffolk superior court and is accusing robert of violating a state law
that prohibits landlord from refusing to rent two veteran now bra birth has a
written response to the lawsuit which claims that morgan never returned a
completed rental application which she admits after hearing her voice mail let’s go through this piece by piece the first thing is roberts is probably right that it would
be very uncomfortable to be in a situation where this guy is
renting from her she is very anti war and that has also
affected her opinion of the individuals who have been and it would be uncomfortable for him as
well actually agree with that this probably isn’t a good living situation
for either a okay that would you agree with that i would have to agree that there might
be some some tension area now the fact that the woman now is backsliding and
saying well it’s not actually because he’s a war
veteran it’s because he didn’t complete a rental application it’s uh… it feels to me like she’s
been advised that she should probably go and focus on this technicality rather
than the real reason she doesn’t want in there because that may not actually
stand up legal so that’s why we’re seeing a change in what she’s saying or maybe if you think that that would
this be beneficial from a p_r_ point of view yeah what’s your thought on are on just that aspect of it but the
entire thing i think it’s completely idiotic to uh…
e to think that it’s just assume that this soldier is for a war profile unse perot whatever you’re against just
because he enlisted by he didn’t you didn’t decide where he was going he
didn’t uh… he didn’t start these war he’s
he’s a soldier no this was his job what do you think in time uh… anon trying to think of another case obviously if there’s a state law
that talks about renting the soldiers uh… it’s different but likes within
entirely nuclear activist and there’s someone who works at a
nuclear power plant uh… can you refuse to rent them
because you disagree with the very idea that someone would even work at a place
like that right i don’t know i don’t know what the difference would be with
the law prohibits discrimination based on uh… you know race and gender and
those types of things was recovered and separately there is this law which
prevents the refusal of renting to veterans uh… simply because they are veterans it would sound to me like that is with the play here louis
based on my initial reading of this at the same time you know if i was this
guy i probably wouldn’t want to live there anyway maybe now it’s more about making this
into anew story they’re not actually moving into that apartment but if i were
him i wouldn’t wanna live there tend to be completely honest does not excuse
whether official osborne broken a lot has been broken vote will see that yeah well you whether or not you want to
know you want to make a story out of the you want to prove a point set a precedent that’s that’s uh… neither here nor there
that’s up to the individual but uh… i personally there i would wanna live
there why why would i want to deal with that

61 Comments

newdimensionfilms

Jun 6, 2012, 10:38 pm Reply

Fail.

ThisbeandPyramus

Jun 6, 2012, 10:44 pm Reply

On the narrow issue of each soldier's culpability for war actions – I believe individual soldiers ARE responsible for war – if only in the sense that wars can't happen without them. They can simply NOT enlist. Of course, enlistees are often as much victims as anything else but ultimately it is a dishonest farce for a society to claim an "anti-war" status – while at the same time practicing soldier exaltation. Why is there a special law for veterans and not – for instance – anti war activists?

ReliableInsider

Jun 6, 2012, 10:47 pm Reply

It's not really clear why he would want to go to the one place where he's not welcome.

When people file discrimination lawsuits, it's usually because they find that, because of discrimination, they're not welcome anywhere and they need 1. housing or 2. a job or whatever.

ecotts

Jun 6, 2012, 11:09 pm Reply

The property owner should have the right to say who can or cant rent their home, the vet should accept that and move along..

Whats the point in fighting illegal wars for the same mafia that is corrupting our country and willingly believing that you're doing so in the interest of our nation to protect our freedoms, rights, liberties and interests, then the second that someone wants the right to say they don't want you living in their home you want to sue them. Go back to Iraq you prick!

johnphones

Jun 6, 2012, 11:36 pm Reply

she doesnt want to rent a room to a killer nothing wrong with that…..and judging on the lawsuit and the scum look on his face (i know im not being fair) he prob feels like the world owes him something, killing innocent people shouldnt make you feel proud and if ur not wanted somewhere and you dont own the place be the bigger man and leave; this guys a loser

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 11:48 pm Reply

I don't agree with your Killer comment that's foolish, but I have support Janice Roberts on this issue only because it's her property and I believe in america you should be able to chose who you want to rent too. This guy wants a pay day and his stupid PTSD comment is foolish because many of us Vet's who do have problems don't just talk about it to random people nor to a reporter. I feel this guy needs to move on and find something else.

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 11:56 pm Reply

Wrong!!! We are willing to give our lives for her freedoms, so people like Janice Roberts can rent to whoever she wants. Being a combat vet does not mean anyone owes us anything! He needs to find another place and NOT try to get a pay day.. I rarely support people like like Janice Roberts; however she has the right to have a conflict of interest due to her background, and also If I was this guy I would have been appreciative for her being honest, because I would not want to rent from her either.

eswyatt

Jun 6, 2012, 12:16 am Reply

Why fill out a rental application if the landlord told him she wouldn't rent to him? I don't think there should be a statute, but, seeing that there is, I think she violated it.

sewbuttns

Jun 6, 2012, 12:27 am Reply

The law would be ok if the military actually fought in defense of our country rather than just to serve the financial interests of a small group of elite busniess men. But there's no honor in the military now. Why should soldiers get special privelages?

Grand Crusader

Jun 6, 2012, 12:55 am Reply

You don't deserve to have your life defended.

Capgungoesbang

Jun 6, 2012, 1:06 am Reply

A law has been broken and he could certainly sue her, but that's where the story will end. Either he wins or she wins. It is weird though that he would suddenly become insecure about being a soldier because of this woman. He clearly would be aware already of the thousands, probably even millions of people that don't support someone's decision to join the military or go to war. He would have had to make peace with that before he even joined. He just needs to find somewhere else, plain and simple

imanerd36

Jun 6, 2012, 1:30 am Reply

Republicans always scream that it's OK to discriminant against gays (and others) because owner's have private property rights, so why aren't they defending her private property rights?

johnphones

Jun 6, 2012, 1:34 am Reply

i dont think that "killer" part of my comment is all that foolish but i guess its a little overboard, however the main point is this guy needs to grow up and i think we both agree on that

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 2:19 am Reply

Veterans are a protected class. She openly stated her reason for refusing to rent to him was because he is a veteran. Fuck her. I hope he sues her into poverty. And I don't think repubes are always screaming it's ok to discriminate, I'm pretty sure it's bullshit and you are only repeating what you hear from "friends".

billz1rtc

Jun 6, 2012, 2:20 am Reply

She 63 now that would put her in her late teens early 20's during Vietnam so she probably did spit in some Vets face 40yrs ago.That said I think she has the right to rent to who she want's, I wouldn't want to rent from someone like her anyway. Now here's a funny thought, what if she has a fire and he shows up to put it out and tells her I'm sorry I don't put out fires for peace activists. ;p

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 2:22 am Reply

I must admit, as a veteran, I would NEVER rent from a commie bitch, no matter how cheap the rent is. Fuck Janice Roberts, I hope he sues her into the gutter.

SuperBenzid

Jun 6, 2012, 2:22 am Reply

You're born black, you're not born a soldier.

SuperBenzid

Jun 6, 2012, 2:26 am Reply

I don't think I would rent to a veteran. 1 million civilians have died due to the Iraq war and I don't know if I would want to rent to someone involved in killing children.

SuperBenzid

Jun 6, 2012, 2:30 am Reply

Defended from what? The non-existent WMDs Saddam had? I feel pretty safe from imaginary weapons.

SuperBenzid

Jun 6, 2012, 2:47 am Reply

I don't, nor did I ever claim to if you could read, I just know he was involved in an organization that does things I find morally reprehensible.

moestietabarnak

Jun 6, 2012, 3:05 am Reply

and then they tell everyone they fight for their freedom. pretty hypocritical.

ecotts

Jun 6, 2012, 3:48 am Reply

It makes no difference whether they're black, white, yellow or green, if you dont want someone in your property it should be up to you.

Oh & as you bought color in to this, If you were black do you think for one second that you would want a member of the KKK renting your property, someone against all your moral beliefs, of course you wouldn't..

What next, are you going to turn to the courts to sue every women that turns you down for discriminating against you for being ugly?

Just accept it!

Cody Lupardus

Jun 6, 2012, 3:54 am Reply

Agreed with your point (and almost said it), but that's not what he was responding to. The person he replied to said homeowners should have absolute choice.

A little off topic, but what about people who were drafted?

Cody Lupardus

Jun 6, 2012, 3:58 am Reply

Did she know that when she originally denied him? If not, its like arresting someone for showering on tuesday because some old law said they could.

Maybe not always, but many times. Many laws have been considered at the state level to allow bullying of gays. Many oppose the civil rights act. Arizona's law is racial profiling. They oppose laws allowing women to sue for being discriminated against in their pay.

Cody Lupardus

Jun 6, 2012, 3:59 am Reply

He was in the military, hence the term "veteran". He participated in the violence by doing that.

SuperBenzid

Jun 6, 2012, 4:08 am Reply

"The person he replied to said homeowners should have absolute choice."
Fair enough, sorry I missed that.

With people who were drafted, I really feel they should have chosen to conscientiously object. Say in Vietnam if the choice was between killing babies for imperialism or going to jail, I would pick jail every time.

I think it is more defensible if someone chose the military out of sheer poverty. There are people that didn't have a lot of options and they are victims too.

imanerd36

Jun 6, 2012, 4:35 am Reply

I know veterans are a protected class for housing (at a state level at least). What I am talking about is that is when someone tries to make being gay (or other group) a protected class, republicans tend to argue private property rights.
And I have not heard this so called "bullshit" from my friends, I have heard it from groups like the "U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops."

ecotts

Jun 6, 2012, 4:42 am Reply

A home owner should have the ultimate right to refuse absolutely anyone, gay, black, white, military, Spanish, christian, Muslim or anyone else for any reason they see fit..

The same way a gay, black, white, military, Spanish, christian, Muslim or anyone else should equally have the right to say NO, when it comes to renting out their property too…

Why is it so hard for you to see the sense in that?

FYI – Let the soldier purchase his own property and make is own rules for his own castle!

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 5:04 am Reply

Her ignorance of the law would not excuse her actions. I hope he cleans her out.

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 5:12 am Reply

@SuperBenzid you're a real piece of shit.

Cody Lupardus

Jun 6, 2012, 5:49 am Reply

I basically agree. Anyone who wouldn't object and choose go to jail (or draft dodge in some other way) is a coward. A criminal record is a criminal record, whether you just went because others pressured you to do it or you did it on your own- you can choose not to hire people for it. You should be able to choose to not sell stuff to them too.

Cody Lupardus

Jun 6, 2012, 5:52 am Reply

@Poverty If they go to college using the GI bill then maybe this would be an excuse. If they were really desperate, they could always just steal stuff from wal-mart, with the risk of getting thrown in jail- the same result as draft dodging.

youngbuck189

Jun 6, 2012, 9:47 am Reply

Seems ridic

chucknchar T

Jun 6, 2012, 12:43 pm Reply

You always have, why stop now.

chucknchar T

Jun 6, 2012, 12:47 pm Reply

He probably has a genage launcher set up in his pick up, dresses in military camouflage and is tea bagger stupid..

yes4me

Jun 6, 2012, 6:42 pm Reply

Truth hurts more than bullets.
The veteran is just looking for money.

flake452

Jun 6, 2012, 8:51 pm Reply

Will probably end up in her apartment being vandalised.

EPRVa62

Jun 6, 2012, 11:39 pm Reply

Landlords CAN descriminate against gays.

niriop

Jun 6, 2012, 11:55 pm Reply

That's right America, just keep treating your veterans like shit, I'm sure they deserve everything that comes to them…you fucking bigoted idiots…

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 12:19 am Reply

You ever been to combat?

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 2:26 am Reply

And I hope he gets every penny that commie bitch has…..

chucknchar T

Jun 6, 2012, 12:35 pm Reply

Yes, but let not talk about your hat size. I'm a veteran and don't worship at the alter of false patriotism.

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 6:01 pm Reply

@elviolette Just in case I didn't make myself clear, eat shit and go fuck yourself.

Josh

Jun 6, 2012, 8:14 pm Reply

It would be different if the veterans went to war for the right reasons but since you continue to follow unconstitutional orders to soldier on for some banker instead of for the reason of freedom.If you join the military in a time of war. You knew you are going to most likely see war.The military should grow some balls and stand against the unconstitutional war they are fighting.Instead they keep killing in the name of democracy.This is a REPUBLIC!!!!!! .You kill in the name of the Rich Elite!

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 9:20 pm Reply

Oh yeah the 100 hour war not much of a war was it?

Scrotes Magotes

Jun 6, 2012, 2:24 am Reply

You're too stupid to know what you're saying, poor thing. Spit on any British troops lately?

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Jun 6, 2012, 4:29 am Reply

you cannot convict someone of a crime they might commit. for the discrimination to actually have happened he would actually have to send in the application and let the denial happen. without the application what he did basically amounts to inquiring about the apartment and her telling him about what goes on in the building and why he should seek housing elsewhere.

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Jun 6, 2012, 4:44 am Reply

some of us are not stupid enough to kill someone just because we were told to. as a soldier your job is to back the government not citizens. if the occupy movement gets out of hand it's going to be your ass in here taking away there right to protest. on top of that
name one time in the history of mankind when soldiers have stood by citizens against the government.

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 5:28 am Reply

First off I was supporting Janice Roberts on this issue. Second As a soldier our number one objective is to protect the Nation in which the government is the nation; however the government is the people we elected them into office. You seem to have this anti government concept and it's great you live in a country that allows you to express those view. That is called freedom speech and expression I have been and lived in countries where citizens don't have that right.

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 5:35 am Reply

OK for your other question on when in the history of mankind have soldier stood by the people, that's easy- world war two liberation of Europe and the Jews. In our time for example the navy seals have rescued reporters and many others from Somali pirates. Earth quakes around the world lets not forget Haiti 82 airborne DIV did a lot of medical and food aid. Your views are your own and I respect them, but there two sides of every story.

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Jun 6, 2012, 6:09 am Reply

you parsed my question. i said when have soldiers ever stood on the side of citizens against it's government?

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Jun 6, 2012, 7:07 am Reply

first let me apologize for implying that you are stupid. it is a breath of fresh air to talk to an intelligent soldier. i am very against this government. there a just too many things that happening that would allow me to trust what they do. voting is useless. because no matter who you vote for, they will tell you want to hear and do what they want.

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Jun 6, 2012, 8:10 am Reply

as far as janice roberts goes, she cannot discriminate if he does give her the chance to. the discriminatory act comes in the denial of the application. her messages also serve two purposes. 1. by informing him of the conditions perhaps it will convince him not to apply and force her to decide.2. should she allow him to move in and he decides later to sue to move out(which likely would've happened). she has a solid case that he was warned of the conditions before he moved in.

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Jun 6, 2012, 8:30 am Reply

the whole purpose of the rental app is to discriminate. are you not picking certain people over others in order to get the best fit for your building? just because someone is racist doesn't mean everything they do is racist. a landlord has an obligation to seek out and identify where there may be problems. whether it's putting a young hip hop rock n roll party animal type with senior citizens, moving a black guy in with a bunch of klan members and even a soldier with anti-war activists.

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Jun 6, 2012, 8:56 am Reply

no one wants an apartment they won't be happy in. except this guy. he suffers from post traumatic syndrome, he professes to be so hurt by her message but still wants to move in where this treatment would go on, on a daily basis. can you see this guy a. committing suicide. b. killing everyone in the building c. suing to move out. let's go with c. a landlord ain't gonna rent to someone they think ain't stay. and he'd lose his case because was warned of conditions beforehand.

Jim Feig

Jun 6, 2012, 5:31 pm Reply

It sounds like she was warning him about possible friction. And he didn't complete the rental application and instead filled suit. But to file a law suit he does have to finish the application and be denied first.

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 11:59 pm Reply

Yes this Vet only want's something out of this and he should just move on. I don't think his PTSD claim is so real because he talks about it to a News Reporter openly….I think it's for a legal purpose to try to help him in this case. If I knew his MOS then I could say what he did in combat, and not every Vet has seen combat during a deployment to be honest maybe 30% saw daily combat. That is what always pissed me off because those P.O.G.S got the same pay I did over there. SAD

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 12:04 am Reply

Also true combat vets keep it to one self, or at most never feel anything is owed to them. I don't care what people think or feel towards my old profession, because I know what I did for my team and brothers and that's it. No one owes us anything not even a thank you. I used to get pissed at the airports when people crowded me and said thank you! I rather these people live there lives and give me space and that's a thank you I can accept.

o8bit0hero

Jun 6, 2012, 12:15 am Reply

I will try to explain this the best I can what a soldier's level is. If zombie Apocalypse happens you and your friends are not worried about why it happened at that point. You will be worried about keeping yourself and friends safe. Well it's the same politics does not matter. My job was to reach objectives and keep my team alive that's it. When I got home I could assets the situation and see whats right and wrong. In war it takes two to tango so please try to see the troops as NOT evil.

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Jun 6, 2012, 1:37 am Reply

i would worry why it happened, ya see that's the key to making sure that it don't happen again. if you ever watched zombie movies it's usually the key to stopping them. by your standard of thinking one should act first then think about it later. them telling you what to do doesn't exonerate you from thinking and if you can figure out this case i know you can see thru this governments bullshit.

PeaceRequiresAnarchy

Oct 10, 2012, 3:59 am Reply

"A consistent peace activist must be an anarchist."

Read "An Open Letter to the Peace Movement" by Roderick Long

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