| by Kenneth Chase | 100 comments

OOPS: White House Admits No Imminent Threat from Soleimani


It’s important not to forget to report on
proven lies from this administration even when the story has left the headlines. And
case in point. We now have a declassified internal white house memo about that assassination
of the Uranian crudes leader Kaseem Solemani, which uh, but the, the memo now confirms that
the imminent threat posed by Solemani was not actually part of the, uh, justification
that the white house internally was discussing for his assassination. Something we suspected
at the time he was not a threat imminently to the United States or U S interests. And initially they changed the justification’s.
But initially that was the primary justification that the white house gave. Now remember that
the explanations shifted. First it was Sola Moni was an imminent threat. He was planning
to do all sorts of violence, attack us embassies, all sorts of stuff. When it started to become
very clear that that wasn’t true, they shifted to, well, this is because of the things that
Soleimani did in the past. And hilariously, at one point, Trump and his secretary of state,
Mike Pompeo, who were not even on the same page, Trump was repeating that it was because
of the imminent threat. While Palm PEO had already shifted to saying it’s because of
what he did in the past, then Trump ended up tweeting, well, it doesn’t even really
matter why I did it. Same quote, the fake news media and their Democrat partners are
working hard to determine whether or not the future attack by terrorists Soleimani was
imminent or not. And was my team in agreement? The answer to
both is a strong yes, but it doesn’t really matter because of his horrible past. Well,
we now have the memo from the white house just to kind of close this story out. And
imminent threat is nowhere in there. It’s another bogus, dishonest talking point debunked
ultimately by their own documents. The only thing the memo says is that this was a response
to escalating attacks in prior months by Iran and Iran backed militias. The attack was meant
to serve as a sort of scare off deterrent to future attacks and it simply then goes
into the legal justification for why Donald Trump was legally, uh, enabled and able to
do this attack. There was nothing there about imminent threat. There’s nothing there about
the imminence claim that they claim existed. Now I know it’s been weeks, people have already
forgotten about this, but it’s important to document the lies and we now have another
one confirmed. And in a sense we already had it confirmed. Mike Palm PEO very quickly shifted
from imminent threat to repercussions for past actions. Reminder of one of Palm payos
being slippery on this at the time we needed to strike to make sure that this
imminent attack that he was working actively, uh, was disrupted a specific target overseas. I’m not gonna say anything more about the
nature of the tech, but know that this was not just in Iraq, was throughout the region.
I was using these proxy forces that he has manipulated for so long to bring so much destruction,
uh, to the Shias and Sunni’s the Muslims throughout the region. This a man who inflicted enormous
harm, not only on American lives, but created a terribly destructive activities. Sporting
Lebanese, Hezbollah, Hamas, the Palestinian economic jihad. Uh, all of the bad actors
in the middle East, custom Sulaymani was that the center of all of it? Was there any imminent threat to the U S Homeland? These were threats that were located in the
region, right? I mean, I guess maybe some threat in
that region, not to the U S and anyway, it was punishment for bad things he previously
did as they later went on to say and Trump insisting he can do it either way, no matter
what. Then Palm PEO went on Fox news and said, well, probably there was some threat. We just
didn’t know when or where it would ultimately manifest. And then it went back to, well,
no, no, it was actually punishment for Kaseem Solomanis past bad deeds. It was a completely
incoherent shifting rationale from the start. We knew they were lying and now the declassified
white house memo confirms this. Not that anybody on Trump’s side is going to care, but important
to do the work and to keep up with debunking these lies and there are many of them and
they come fast and furious.

100 Comments

Michael Hagan

Feb 2, 2020, 2:56 pm Reply

Trump is a threat to our National Security and so are those who defend him and his crimes !!!

Bradley James

Feb 2, 2020, 2:56 pm Reply

Can we stop having to qualifying any statement about Soleimani with he was a horrible person? We know this, but assassinating horrible people that pose no imminent threat is not supposed to be the American way. Trump and his administration murdered a man not to protect our country, but to gain political popularity and take attention away from his personal domestic issues. Trump should not be able to tell people to pull the trigger when it comes to taking lives. Also, fuck Doug Collins for say Democrats were in love with terrorists. This is an elected official and this was the best he could come up with? *spit.

LZRD84

Feb 2, 2020, 2:57 pm Reply

But trump would not condemn his BFF, and the Saudis for horribly murdering Koshoggi. What a bunch of hypocrites the lot of them are.

F Satterwhite

Feb 2, 2020, 3:04 pm Reply

Trump tried to gain supporters by assasinating a high profile Muslim.

Leo M

Feb 2, 2020, 3:10 pm Reply

Jesus, the imminent threat is inferred. No reason to risk human lives on semantics.

Kris Frederick

Feb 2, 2020, 3:13 pm Reply

Doesn't matter, no one is accountable for anything anymore. They all had different excuses at the same time for doing. Truth is always the same, lies tend to morph and change with the audience.

Newman Knowlton

Feb 2, 2020, 3:16 pm Reply

Thanks for this piece, David. The one thing that really separates your channel from the other independent media outlets is that you will go back and do these updates on past stories. They place additional accountability on those in power and they contextualize the real long-term damage they're doing.

Mr.D Simpson

Feb 2, 2020, 3:21 pm Reply

Just wanted to make trump good, a very weak person trump is.

spyder2782

Feb 2, 2020, 3:23 pm Reply

No one cares. We have done this multiple times bin Ladin ect

verilyheld

Feb 2, 2020, 3:35 pm Reply

And Flight 752 is murdered thanks to Trump ramping up tensions.
I'd call trump the world's anus, but the anus performs a necessary function.
What the baby-man is, is a trump. Total trump. Absolutely nothing but trump.

Pro Gamer.

Feb 2, 2020, 3:35 pm Reply

Fucking Trump and Pompeo are so pathetic. No proof to show to Americans for justification, moved goalposts to explain why they did it, and they just got busted for lying. These are our leaders, folks. I'm embarrassed to be an American right now.

Aaron Sanders

Feb 2, 2020, 3:39 pm Reply

Same shit over and over and over and OVER AND OVER. Lie first, let the lie spread, then quietly tell the truth.

sissyreed1

Feb 2, 2020, 3:46 pm Reply

Carter: 566

Reagan: 406

H.W. Bush: 77

Cigar Bill: 459

George W: 200

Obama: 1,927👈

Trump: 26 And the left is bitching & moaning that Trump is abusing his power. Typical lies & bullshit from from the liberal, fake news.

Sterling Pound

Feb 2, 2020, 3:58 pm Reply

Don't ignore the suspicious movements in the markets immediatey prior to the news of the drone strike coming out. Trump's cronies may have made an estimated $190 million from having advance knowledge.

Sterling Pound

Feb 2, 2020, 3:58 pm Reply

Don't ignore the suspicious movements in the markets immediatey prior to the news of the drone strike coming out. Trump's cronies may have made an estimated $190 million from having advance knowledge.

danger stranger

Feb 2, 2020, 4:05 pm Reply

The real question here is will it affect everything the way killing Saddam Hussein did? We wouldn't still be in endless war with ISIS and Al-Qaeda which was being held back from gaining any type of power because of Saddam Hussein. Bush and Cheney really fucked things up. It's amazing to see Trump do an even better job at fucking things up.

Pei K

Feb 2, 2020, 4:08 pm Reply

It's all to make himself feel like an 'alpha' "male". Sigh….his goddamned base loves this murder and crime.
It's so easy to tell when a GOP lies…when are we going to make them pay? Jail isn't enough for their war crimes and immortality.

006 006

Feb 2, 2020, 4:14 pm Reply

wait…you mean he didn't have a giant boat with 1000s of soldiers…that could somehow get past the blockades….and then somhow into the ocean….then somehow get across the ocean UNDETECTED for 1000s of miles…then somehow sneak that giant ship into a city??? he didn't have all that??? shit…

Peter Sjostedt

Feb 2, 2020, 4:15 pm Reply

Why does no one ask where the USS Tennessee headed off to loaded with 1/3 payload of the Hiroshima Nuke?? Anyone worried ?

Envy – Skirg

Feb 2, 2020, 4:17 pm Reply

I can’t believe that thousands of people like trump’s tweets on the daily.

SXS

Feb 2, 2020, 4:19 pm Reply

He was never a threat to America. He was a threat to Israel

Lawrence & Diana Gunn

Feb 2, 2020, 4:21 pm Reply

Does this information make the Soleimani assassination a war crime?

kaleilw

Feb 2, 2020, 4:24 pm Reply

Who is this myopic turd from "epoch news" that keeps making excuses (lies) for all of the tRump administration's criminal activities (the ad before you get to see the clip you clicked on)? Get 'im outta here!

nk h

Feb 2, 2020, 4:34 pm Reply

Does anyone else feel like we’re on the Titanic??? It feels worse after the acquittal. I am experiencing actual grief about how our country is being run. Will we defeat him in November???

rwhunt99

Feb 2, 2020, 4:34 pm Reply

You should remember Trump put out the hit 8 months prior to his actual death. So all of this is moot.

Khalid

Feb 2, 2020, 4:38 pm Reply

Soleimani was killed for only one reason, so Trump can brag about it for few seconds at every rally to gather more votes. Sad but true.

Jesse Leon

Feb 2, 2020, 4:38 pm Reply

This is All WRONG then! Cause trump put all americans in danger with their stupid stunt. Didn't they stop and think that, that country's people would want to retaliate ? ………… UNBELIEVABLE!!
That trump and his stupid crew would think of this? This is the exact reason why Obama, Bush, and the other presidents didn't! But trump and his crew are too stupid to think.

Event Horizon

Feb 2, 2020, 4:42 pm Reply

It's literally disgusting how we as a country operate our foreign policy

Kae McSpadden

Feb 2, 2020, 4:47 pm Reply

A distraction from the impeachment perhaps?

Ghl Scitel

Feb 2, 2020, 4:55 pm Reply

Republicans obvously want a republic for growing bananas in a large scale.

Velvet SINGLETON

Feb 2, 2020, 4:57 pm Reply

Pompeo needs to go to all of you Republicans need to go I'm really sick of this everyday a gondek it's really going to make somebody had go off I don't know what more to say this is really getting sick me and I don't care who comment

KaPow 77

Feb 2, 2020, 4:59 pm Reply

Pompeo couldn't even open his eyes while he lied… true tell

Sage Fields

Feb 2, 2020, 5:02 pm Reply

Almost like Iraq was "an imminent threat"

Mercedes Repair

Feb 2, 2020, 5:14 pm Reply

So…we almost provoked a war with Iran, lacking any strategy or forethought ?

Jim Carlson

Feb 2, 2020, 5:23 pm Reply

how many bulletproof vests is Pompeo wearing?

Mike Marder

Feb 2, 2020, 5:27 pm Reply

Soleimani was a threat. Not an immediate threat, which is what normally triggers us, but a real threat galloping around the region instead of staying put. I don't like Trump, but this time the stopped clock was right twice a day.

Mike Marder

Feb 2, 2020, 5:27 pm Reply

Soleimani was a threat. Not an immediate threat, which is what normally triggers us, but a real threat galloping around the region instead of staying put. I don't like Trump, but this time the stopped clock was right twice a day.

Marlena Forbes-Reidy

Feb 2, 2020, 5:31 pm Reply

VOTE BLUE AT THE 2020 ELECTIONS 🇺🇸👤🇺🇸👤🇺🇸👤🇺🇸.

Bruce DaBuc

Feb 2, 2020, 5:33 pm Reply

THEY LOVE TO LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL…..TO EVERYONE, INCLUDING, US!!!

Leigh Weston

Feb 2, 2020, 5:48 pm Reply

The most exhausting thing about Trump and Co. is we confirm all the things we already knew (hoping maybe that we might be wrong) but going back almost 4 years, there is still zero accountability. So, at the end of the day, so what?

aspookyfox

Feb 2, 2020, 5:51 pm Reply

Lol so they made him a martyr. Smart.

KC Woolsey

Feb 2, 2020, 5:53 pm Reply

So among all the titles this President has – liar, con artist, obstructionist, colluder, and briber, we can now add Assassin/TERRORIST! So just another REPUBLIKKKAN WAR CRIMINAL!!!

BigMamaDave X

Feb 2, 2020, 5:58 pm Reply

😎 Well, colour me shocked. 😏😉

Steve Gillham

Feb 2, 2020, 5:59 pm Reply

Trump only killed the guy to move the news story away from his Empeachment.

CHARLES SCOTT

Feb 2, 2020, 6:08 pm Reply

You need your head examined if you still believe that the u.s government is in any way your friend.

Joe Reyes

Feb 2, 2020, 6:17 pm Reply

They are basing this on the past but not in the future or their Intel was a lie…this administration doesn’t care about the truth but how they will be remembered as an administration….

Shaheeda William

Feb 2, 2020, 6:26 pm Reply

This is a life that was deliberately taken, for God's sake!!! Does this mean that if you are American you are exempt from being human, therefore any life is expendable at your whim?

r385671

Feb 2, 2020, 6:37 pm Reply

Who cares. Iran is a terrorist state.

Chris Bading

Feb 2, 2020, 6:43 pm Reply

Does that mean we could assassinate Trump because of his horrible past?

Fred Smith

Feb 2, 2020, 6:49 pm Reply

Epoch Times ad before Pakman Show video? WTF!

Patrick Bendig

Feb 2, 2020, 6:49 pm Reply

Well of course not.
Soleimani is dead.

No more imminent threat

bobmatzke

Feb 2, 2020, 6:57 pm Reply

Don't expect FAUX News to ever report on this

Dehibernation

Feb 2, 2020, 7:01 pm Reply

Well too bad. It's too late now. It's not like anyone will be held to account now.

Carol Williams

Feb 2, 2020, 7:08 pm Reply

Visably uncomfortable, lying double-talk – – Pompeo is just ANOTHER trumple enabler…

darqentries

Feb 2, 2020, 7:11 pm Reply

You people are disgusting. You guys deserve all the shady shit Bloomberg and the DNC are going to do to Bernie. Enjoy your impotent outrage, because I know I will.

BCT

Feb 2, 2020, 7:13 pm Reply

He wasn't a friend of the west,but that doesn't make him a legitimate target for state murder.
Trump's a far greater threat to the west than any Iranian.

John G

Feb 2, 2020, 7:16 pm Reply

Anyone who signs up for a paid membership should be warned that David will ignore your attempts to cancel. My mother who lives on fixed income has sent numerous requests via the contact form and David keeps taking money from her every month

Suzanne Sheets

Feb 2, 2020, 7:17 pm Reply

Thank you, David. It is important to document the lies!. You are the best!

Neo E

Feb 2, 2020, 7:26 pm Reply

But Trump is an imminent threat for the US and the world!

Craxin01

Feb 2, 2020, 7:29 pm Reply

Remember, any functionary of the government propped up in front of a camera to spout insincerity about some governmental action isn't there to provide proof or to genuinely answer questions. They're there to obfuscate and to placate their base, which this clip provides. Just telling us, people who already know the truth, that they're lying is almost literally preaching to the choir. In other words, functionally useless.

Susan Delaney

Feb 2, 2020, 7:40 pm Reply

How long are Americans going to put up with ALL his LIES! he doesn’t care. They will continue until WE STOP him

Gabriel Hinojosa

Feb 2, 2020, 7:40 pm Reply

He probably had some dirt on one of them

Pete Tsaggaris

Feb 2, 2020, 7:43 pm Reply

LOL PECKERMAN still harping about Nobel prize winner soloumouni.

EAT THE RICH

Feb 2, 2020, 7:45 pm Reply

The imminent threat was Iran and Saudi Arabia having peace talks- this is an imminent threat to the budget.

Roger Davis

Feb 2, 2020, 7:46 pm Reply

When this first happened I read something about Soleimani having business ties with some Iranian company that rump had business dealings with and Soleimani was about to spill the beans.

Gretchen Murray

Feb 2, 2020, 7:54 pm Reply

You do realize David you are filling your space with known/old who cares information? Yet you get all up in it like you're announcing the Miss USA pageant winner. I want you to invite the cabinet members on live and ask them why they are not executed the 25th Amendment, understand they will win back respect of a life time.

the village idiot

Feb 2, 2020, 8:00 pm Reply

💩🇺🇸💩🖕

Gregory Williams

Feb 2, 2020, 8:18 pm Reply

Mike Pompeo

jason r

Feb 2, 2020, 8:24 pm Reply

I bet all those MAGA hat wearing hatriots are gonna be mad since they all rushed to enlist to fight in Iran for their leader cadet bone spurs….oh wait yeah that’s right trump and his cult followers are spinelsss treasonous cowards…they’d never sign up to fight for America.

Renee Lasswell

Feb 2, 2020, 8:34 pm Reply

With the "imminent" part of the justification taken out of the equation I don't see how this was legal.

Robert Thompson

Feb 2, 2020, 9:27 pm Reply

If he was not a threat well ain't that's murder so you can tell me Trump can kill anyone he wants, come on so ya'll telling me there no more such thing as law anymore so Trump is right he is above the law,

Yargo Joint

Feb 2, 2020, 9:32 pm Reply

Compared to the US actions in the Middle East, including Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia, etc., Suleimani was little more than a child playing with firecrackers. The US has killed and displaced millions of people in that region and is the only imminent threat in the Middle East. And the two most notorious terrorist states in the region—Israel and Saudi Arabia— have a licence to kill whomever they want, including Americans (cf. World Trade Center) with the full support of the US. The only people gullible enough to believe US propaganda are its citizens. The rest of us know that if a US President is talking, he’s lying.

T Slap

Feb 2, 2020, 9:51 pm Reply

What happened to that national emergency? I thought immigrants were coming to invade our refrigerators.

James Vaughan

Feb 2, 2020, 9:58 pm Reply

Oops it won’t change anything

TREVOR THE FILTHY RAT

Feb 2, 2020, 10:04 pm Reply

I already know,
Trumps going to create a huge problem, Then try to sell an answer to the problem he created.

Lelynn Miller

Feb 2, 2020, 10:14 pm Reply

Soleimani probably just had some kinda Epstein like dirt on Trump 🙄

Jon Dhoe

Feb 2, 2020, 10:21 pm Reply

Don't forget, Democrats supported the murder of the general doing the most to defeat the US backed terrorists.

cbinsyd

Feb 2, 2020, 10:34 pm Reply

Interesting note, the number of people that are surprised by this news = 0

Nanny Of Many

Feb 2, 2020, 10:44 pm Reply

There's a huge (not) surprise. That is Terrorism at its worst!

Mary Emanuel

Feb 2, 2020, 10:53 pm Reply

Trump should be charged!

enrique garcia

Feb 2, 2020, 10:57 pm Reply

The poisoning of Russian spyes pales before an open and inexcusable assassination. How can the west claim moral outrage? After showing an immoral complicity if not collaboration with no legal consequences, in such a way an assassin, who everybody knows who he is, is on the loose.

Carl Cassidy

Feb 2, 2020, 11:05 pm Reply

So the airliner that was accidently shot down was for nothing. Trumps calateral damage

Barbara Mulvaney

Feb 2, 2020, 11:17 pm Reply

International crimes? Meh! No biggie. Par for the course. This guy is SO unfuckingbelievable! Pardon me while I puke! 😳😵🤢

Kren Wregget

Feb 2, 2020, 11:20 pm Reply

No one has a shittier past than Drumph and his administration so I guess we should order drone strikes on the white house.

Lizard King

Feb 2, 2020, 11:20 pm Reply

And TRUMp knows an "imminent attack"… when he tweets one.

Steve Johnson

Feb 2, 2020, 11:29 pm Reply

Most of us westerners knew there was no "imminent threat." On the other hand, donald dump's act of terrorism brought an attack on one of our bases, coupled with a passenger aircraft being shot down. These would not have happened "but for" the error in judgement of donald dump and specific associates.

Gen Sherman

Feb 2, 2020, 11:47 pm Reply

Treasonous Trump and his life of lies.

Beverly Inkster

Feb 2, 2020, 11:47 pm Reply

David have you read the book the black tower if not please do , basically Trump is in bed with the Russians.

My Cool Moral Lay Ha

Feb 2, 2020, 11:49 pm Reply

We knew this, just like cutting Medicare and Medicaid was all for the same reason, impeachment.

Max Keilen

Feb 2, 2020, 12:02 am Reply

So war crimes? You know any other nation that would pull this shit the U.S. would be all over them.

Sir Smooth

Feb 2, 2020, 12:25 am Reply

David Packman, I think you're making a stretch here claiming the memo was proof there was no imminent threat. The memo specifically backs up the justification of the US attack based on the escalating attacks of the Iranian backed Shia militias, who the qods force directly trains and coordinates with. Saleimani being the head of said force makes him a justified target and the trend of the recent escalating attacks on US forces, the US embassy and US contracter's suggests more attacks are on the way and thus "imminent". Just my opinion.

Maria G.

Feb 2, 2020, 12:38 am Reply

Proof it was indeed a war crime

Pogo Anne Buglehorn Mcgillicutty III

Feb 2, 2020, 1:02 am Reply

Pompeo is a shitty liar

Rich Southall

Feb 2, 2020, 1:03 am Reply

Every syllable, every word, every utterance which drips from Trump's lips; is a lie. He was born a liar, remains a liar and will die a liar. This is the basis of why he is so dangerous to our country and the world at large. There's been over sixteen thousand documented lies since he came into power – does that not shock anyone any longer?? How many years would Abraham Lincoln have to live before he uttered sixteen thousand lies? A million years? But this chump does it in 3 years – astounding really that people continue to follow and grovel at this vile, disgraceful pig of a human. End the nightmare!

Katelyn Morgan

Feb 2, 2020, 1:04 am Reply

Trump makes compulsive decisions and that’s why he’s so dangerous. He’s unstable and very, very stupid but also very very greedy

nastya0391

Feb 2, 2020, 1:09 am Reply

Can they been turned to the international court. For War crimes ??? Or crimes lesa Humanidad ???

Crazy Joe Devola

Feb 2, 2020, 3:16 am Reply

Speaking from an Iranian perspective: any blow to the despotic, theocratic and unelected Islamic government is welcomed.

Lisa Oxendine

Feb 2, 2020, 3:36 am Reply

Some nation may see the US as an imminent threat and bomb us….thanks Trump.

Mr. Wonderful

Feb 2, 2020, 3:48 am Reply

It’s not oops they just don’t give a shit anymore..

G. Love 64

Feb 2, 2020, 5:06 am Reply

Netanyahu and his zionists wanted this guy killed (not a good guy at all, but does set a precedent for others and consolidates support in Iran) so they asked crazy evangelicals who are also zionists Pompeo and Pence who want the fucking end of days …. creepy fucks ….

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