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Marianne Williamson on Opioids and Reaching the 2020 Debates

-You’re very different
from Donald Trump. I think one distinction you draw
is, again, you’ve even said you want to meet him
on a field of love as opposed to a field of hate. So that is a difference
between you. A similarity is neither of you
have ever held political office. And obviously, there is some
hesitation by many voters that that is an important thing
that you lack. What do you say to them? -Well, the question
is legitimate, but I think my answer
is significant as well. First of all,
the problem with the President is not that he lacked
experience. The problem with the President
is that he lacks ethics. And he seems to lack
a visceral taste for democracy. He lacks a visceral respect
for our democratic traditions. I do not. Now, as far as political
experience is concerned, and he could have
surrounded himself with very fine political experts
had he chosen to. Now, when you — I have a lot of
respect for political expertise, but let’s not kid ourselves. Very experienced politicians
led us into the war in Iraq. Very experienced politicians
led us into the war in Vietnam. We need political vision now as much as we need
political expertise. You could have the best
car mechanic in the world, but the best car mechanic
doesn’t necessarily know what road you should take
to San Antonio. That’s what I feel I bring. And FDR said that
the primary responsibility and the primary role
of the presidency, he said, is not the administrative
aspect. That, he said, is secondary. The primary role
is moral leadership. That is what we lack. We lack a vision of
where America is and a vision of
where America needs to go. And that takes more than
political expertise, and I believe that
the experience I do have and the skill set I do have
makes me the woman for that job. -So you would be in this case
GPS, basically. [ Laughter ] -But you know what?
That is what the presidency is. -Yeah, I can see that argument. -That is what the president
does. The president doesn’t sit there
with a checkbook and try to figure it all out. -No, certainly not this one. [ Laughter ] You received some criticism
for a couple comments, comments that you have walked
back and said were misstated and that people would say
were maybe anti-science. You came out, you made a comment
against antidepressants. You made a comment
that many saw as anti-vaxx. Did you — Were those mis–
Did you misspeak or have your opinions
on those things evolved? -No, they’ve been inaccurately
described, as you just did. I never made a comment
anti-antidepressants. I’ve never said anything
anti-science. I’ve never said anything
anti-medicine. I’ve actually never said
anything anti-vaccines. What I have said,
the first thing I said, and I did misspeak. I was at an art gallery
in New Hampshire, and the comment was about
mandatory vaccines. And I spent most of
my adult life in California. There’s been
a lot of conversation about religious exemptions,
personal exemptions, and I said something
that I am sorry that I said. I said they sound — it sounds
Orwellian or Draconian to me. I should not have said that,
and I am sorry. That was not
an anti-vaxx statement. Now, about antidepressants — painkillers, for instance,
have a role but we now know. We have attorney generals
all over this country who are right now indicting big pharmaceutical
company executives for predatory behavior, where we absolutely know now
they knowingly overprescribed, over-manufactured,
and over-marketed opioids, and that’s how
so much that has contributed to the opioid crisis. Now, just like painkillers
certainly have a role, I’m sure antidepressants clearly have a role
in some people’s lives. But we’re living at a time
where the spectrum of normal human despair
is so often treated or at least the conversation
is there about meds that I do question. If somebody had a divorce
or a heartbreak or someone died or a professional failure
or a bankruptcy, this is painful,
but it’s not a mental illness. And these drugs
are mainly addictive, and I am not the only person
in mainstream America to be questioning
the over-prescription of — that there is
at least as much question about over-prescription
as about under-prescription. I’m not wandering into mental
illness, bipolar, schizophrenia. That’s not my lane,
but normal human despair is the lane of someone who does the kind of work
that I have done. -Well, thank you so much
for explaining that. I want to say you’ve not yet
qualified for September debates. Are you confident that you will? -Well, anybody can go
to marianne2020.com. [ Laughter ] I need about 6,000 more
of the donors, first-time donors,
before August 28th, and we’re certainly
on track to get that, and I also need 2%
of 4 national polls. So we’ll see. We’ll probably know something
in the next few days. -Alright. Well, thank you
so much for making the time. -Thank you.
-Best of luck. I really appreciate
speaking to you. Marianne Williamson, everybody.


Laura M.

Aug 8, 2019, 3:07 pm Reply

Antidepressants aren't addictive: addiction requires ever-increasing tolerance in conjunction with dependency. Diabetics need insulin—they are dependent upon it. They do not require higher and higher doses of insulin in order to function—they are not developing tolerance. In the same way, persons with depression can depend on their medication, but are not addicted to it.

Ruby Doobie

Aug 8, 2019, 3:52 pm Reply

I knew she was on something, wouldn't have guessed opioids.


Aug 8, 2019, 6:50 pm Reply

Most antidepressants are not "addictive". She is ill-informed on that subject.


Aug 8, 2019, 7:34 pm Reply

How is it possible Williamson looks younger than she did at the debate? She must really know how to harness the power of love.

2:18 I love how she called out Meyers for his bad faith question with such grace.

Jeffrey Von Stetten

Aug 8, 2019, 8:14 pm Reply

What is her accent? I find her pronunciation to be really off

Stev Rex

Aug 8, 2019, 8:58 pm Reply

Willamson is a really great person. And obviously would serve the country well.

Samantha G

Aug 8, 2019, 10:30 pm Reply

She said she miss spoke about anti vaccines but she didn’t clarify on where she stands on that subject. I’m from California too and this is a mind numbingly stupid debate that millennials have about vaccinating their children should be an option. No IDC If it’s “Orwell-ian” it saves literally everyone’s lives
This doesn’t just effect your own child this effects every other child or baby who across it

Rush P.

Aug 8, 2019, 11:48 pm Reply

Many people are sane.
Can she lead though?


Aug 8, 2019, 1:16 am Reply

Marianne Williamson has a jawline that a male supermodel would envy.

Bobby B

Aug 8, 2019, 1:17 am Reply

The first and largest part of her closing speech at the first debate blew me away. It was M.L King, Kennedyesque. Then she wandered off into some strange La la land of Woo Woo. All the analysts on all the media immediately used that to dismiss her as a joke candidate. Even Seth here did her no favors with this interview. I do not believe she can afford to even talk about spirituality, love or any metaphysical thinking anymore except in very general terms. All her critics will immediately go to their Woo Woo response again, unfortunately even I would drop this incredibly intelligent, thoughtful and compassionate woman from consideration. Politics is a cold mean business and the paid for and biased media are the worst because they have control of the framing, editing and your mic. Wish you had somebody like Bobby Kennedy. Rooting for Bernie though.


Aug 8, 2019, 7:47 am Reply

If you like what she has to say and you want to keep her voice apart of the conversation, please go to https://www.marianne2020.com and donate $1 or more. She is SO close to qualifying for the September debate!


Aug 8, 2019, 8:12 am Reply

Next have Andrew Yang on your show Seth, Colbert had him.

cole k

Aug 8, 2019, 8:58 am Reply

At least Seth wasn’t total dick to her. It’s a good sign these comedians are begin to see that this “chick” is not looking into a crystal ball and is in fact the brightest candidate of them all.

Charlie R

Aug 8, 2019, 10:13 pm Reply

Not planning to vote for Marianne, but I am very impressed by her in this. She seems very humble and intelligent.


Aug 8, 2019, 3:25 am Reply

She's talking bullshit. all psychologists know that sudden life events that cause "despair" as she says are NOT symptoms of depression – depression is a persistent, long-term, disease. She would take away a fix for people that, frankly, is caused by this bullshit system. I'm sorry she can't see that.

Sergio Alba

Aug 8, 2019, 5:32 am Reply

Amazing!!! Way to put those “Anti-vax, anti-medicine, anti-science” rumors and smears to rest Marianne!!! #Marianne2020


Aug 8, 2019, 10:18 am Reply

❤️ If you like Marianne, please pick up unknown callers, they could be pollsters, and tell them you would vote for her. ❤️
❤️ That way you can hear more from her in the debates, she needs them for qualification and your other favorite candidates probably not anymore! ❤️
(sorry if my English is not correct)


Aug 8, 2019, 6:56 pm Reply

If you believe the none sense this woman spews you should read the books she reads and how deceiving they are


Aug 8, 2019, 6:57 pm Reply


Genevieve Baldwin

Aug 8, 2019, 11:55 pm Reply

Marianne is a thinker.


Aug 8, 2019, 6:15 pm Reply

Donated to her campaign. Hope Marianne makes it to the next debate. She's a vital voice for the times we find ourselves in.

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